Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!samsung!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: help! Message-ID: <32059@cup.portal.com> Date: 25 Jul 90 07:50:08 GMT References: <1990Jul21.233546.16105@hayes.fai.alaska.edu> <23783@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <1990Jul23.012040.925@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 27 Documentation such as "Hitchhikers Guide to the BIOS", S.A.L.A.D. and all the other info mentioned is available... IF... you join the "fraternity" of Atari developers... As mentioned here on the net by Atari representatives, Atari Corp doesn't consider most of us to be worth their time or trouble.. (comeon Greg, you read it, I read it, we all read it... don't bother protesting) Only if you demonstrate your "credibility" by forking out the initiation dues and by meeting the "standards" for an Atari Developer, can you obtain entre into the "inner circle" and learn all that neat inside stuff about Atari computers.. (I dunno.. .is there a "secret handshake" too..?) If you don't meet the standards, or can't afford the $250 intitiation fee, you can dig through the Abacus books (with all their typos and errors) and pore over back-issues of ST magazines, or try to disassemble the TOS ROMs yourself... (something that is highly discouraged by the Atari reps.. you might learn something they want to sell you...) Seems funny... a company whose market is in the toilet like Atari's is should, by most rational outlooks, try to encourage as many enthusiastic programmers as possible to work with their systems... to help drag them back into the real world... but no one seems to have ever accused Atari Corp of being rational... BobR