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From: bla@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Brad Ahlf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP Softbench
Message-ID: <-286539953@hpcupt1.HP.COM>
Date: 21 Jul 90 01:53:04 GMT
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Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
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| >Is anyone using the HP version of C++ out there ?

| Yes. We have a beta release. To get it we had to apply to become an
| approved beta test site for HP. I guess it comes direct from HP labs 
| and bypasses the factory. The official release isn't out yet. 

Actually, for convenience, HP just uses a slightly modified 'beta' agreement
form for 'pre-releases' of software rather than creating a special new legal
form just for pre-releases.  And, you got HP C++ through the factory, and
not directly from the lab.  Only the software manufacturing and distribution
organization was bypassed (due to production problems -- see other posting).
The official HP C++ release will be out extremely soon.  You probably have
the actual 'release' bits.

| It's much better than Glockenspiel's
| or Oregon's C++. Glockenspiel's 1.2 compiler had too many bugs. Maybe
| their 2.0 version is better. Oregon's compiler couldn't handle large
| files, wouldn't compile InterViews, and it's not AT&T standard either.
| HP's C++ is the best we've seen, and has a good debugger. It's slow
| at compiling though.

Thanks for the compliments!  Have you tried using '-g1' instead of '-g'
for speeding up compiles and taking up less disk space when compiling
with debug?  You can read more in /etc/newconfig/HPCXX/ReleaseNotes.
We are working on speeding up the compiles for our next release.

| Nick Hoggard                                   Phone:    + 46 46 168524

Brad Ahlf
bla@hpda.hp.com
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