Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!mintaka!ogicse!plains!bakke From: bakke@plains.UUCP (Jeffrey P. Bakke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Game wanted: EGA/VGA Fighter Game Message-ID: <5347@plains.UUCP> Date: 23 Jul 90 12:38:44 GMT References: <1990Jul20.182211.11078@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1990Jul21.035737.5524@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <90203.135400YTHRROUS@MTUS5.BITNET> Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo Lines: 71 Well, as far as a good Fighter Game, I've got F-19, Microsoft Simulator 4.0, Jet, Yeagers Flight Simulator 1.0 and 2.0, F-16 Falcon, and JetFighter. F-19 is fun to play since there is so much to do and a wide variety of missions to choose from. The only quirk is that is that the keyboard control is kind of strange (you hit insert to cycle through 3 modes of sensitivity) and it can be a pain in the butt in combat. MS Simulator 4.0 is exactly that, a Simulator. Its definitely beyond a game in the realism and time that it takes to learn all about it. As was mentioned before, MS was a little chintzy in the fact that you need to mail in a card for the maps in this version. Kind of ticked me off. On the high points its an extremely complex simulator of a Gates Lear Jet, Cessna 150, a WW I Sopwith or a Glider. The glider addition in this version is a nice touch; you can locate thermals over a city or hills and catch a ride up. On the bad side, although you can select a driver to give it processor specific code for the 8086/80286/80386, with all the options turned on and running, you need a 80386/20 to be pleased with the frame rate. Although, if you turn all the complex scenery off, you could be happy with a Slow 80286. 8086 is a joke. The two versions of Yeagers Flight Simulator are both OK (2.0 definite improvement). You can fly upwards of 20 different airplanes each with different flight characteristics. You can try and follow chuck in a plane and stay with his plane is complex maneuvers. Theres a air race that you can take to try and win (against other planes also). Also you can see how good you are in formation flying and see if you can stick with the Thunderbirds or the Blue Angles. Its a game that is part simulator and part test pilot. Theres not true fighting though. F-16 Falcon used to be a favorite of mine but I have upgraded to EGA/VGA 386 and have never plopped down the $50 for Falcon AT. The old Falcon for the CGA used to be great though. The only limitation in this game was the limit to the use of F-16s only. But it simulates the 16 really well in the most difficult level. (Owners of F-AT, is it worth the money?) Finally, probably the best Fighter "game" that I have is undoubtedly JetFighter by Velocity Inc. The game stems around the idea of an elite anti-terrorist group using F-14, F-18, and F-16. The game takes place in southern california and has chapters just like a book. Once you finish a chapter, the game progresses into the next step. The graphics are probably some of the Smoothest, fastest graphics out there for 3D Solid animation. On a 386-16Mhz, the refresh rate and scrolling is virutally real time it seems. Granted, the graphics are not as detailed as F-19 or FS 4.0 but the plane you fly still looks really good from the outside and still casts a shadow. The simulation is iffy; No weather, Absolute Ceiling of 57000 ft, no jumpy stick, no variations in speed at specific Angles/Altitude. As a realistic flight simulator, its about par with Jet. As a game, it definitely blows the others out of the water. Also as you progress in the game, your opponents get better and better in combat. At level 30 (I'm there now) Migs are extrememly hard to kill in a dogfight and they're really good at bringing you down. Ok after all that it comes down to: If you want a realistic simulator and great scenery, my bet is Microsoft Simulator 4.0. If you want a complex game with lots of options (but a screwy keyboard setup) and things to do, the game is F-19. And if you just want a good, fun challenging game, get JetFighter. P.S. What do people have to say about the Blue Angles simulator? I haven't ever played it. Jeffrey P. Bakke | Internet: bakke@plains.NoDak.edu | "Life... don't talk 2550 15th Str S #23B | UUCP : ...!uunet!plains!bakke | to me about life..." Fargo, ND 58105 | BITNET : bakke@plains.bitnet | - Marvin the PA