Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!usc!apple!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU!rws From: rws@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Bob Scheifler) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: re: XVT (& IEEE P1201.1) Message-ID: <9007251317.AA03718@expire.lcs.mit.edu> Date: 25 Jul 90 13:17:46 GMT Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 IEEE Standards Working Group Chooses XVT: At its June meeting in San Jose, the IEEE P1201.1 Working Group voted to base its proposed standard for a virtual API on XVT. It's useful to note that the group did this without ever having distributed the XVT specification in a mailing to its members, and after having circulated only half of the XVT specification (a sizeable document) at the two-day June meeting. The people present at the June meeting (I wasn't there) apparently also approved a "virtual" document derived from XVT before it was ever even written. You are welcome to draw your own conclusions as to the wisdom of these actions. [I don't mean to imply that I dislike XVT; I've yet to see a specification of it, so I have not yet produced an informed opinion.] This group had previously been working on standardizing an X-Windows-System-based toolkit, but was unable to choose between OSF/MOTIF and OPEN LOOK. The group was certainly deadlocked on this issue. Also, many members of the group wanted the standard API to work on non-X systems, such as the Macintosh, MS-Windows, Presentation Manager, and character displays. This is certainly true, although my personal opinion is that it was not the driving force. The driving force was the deadlock, and the desparate feeling that the group had to standardize on *something*. If the group's new Project Authorization Request is approved, it will begin drafting a standard based on XVT with the goal of going to ballot in a year. The PAR was delayed on a technicality at the meeting in Danvers last week. I think the general feeling was that it was delayed because the approval body did not wish to tackle what had become a very charged issue, both technically and politically.