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From: davej@sp31.csrd.uiuc.edu (David J. Jablonowski)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: Training courses in X, Motif
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Date: 20 Jul 90 20:06:00 GMT
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  I was going to keep quiet on the request for MOTIF training, but since
someone recommended ICS as providing excellent MOTIF and X training I feel
I should throw in my $.02

   I attended a week-long ICS course last fall. I thought the following.

   1) The course was grossly over-priced based on the actual amount
       of class time we had. Granted, lab time is important in this type
       of training, but the price should accordingly reflect the heavy bias
       toward lab time. Furthermore, the instructors were not too helpful
       in the lab. They were either too busy playing with their own 'toy
       programs', or were unable to address difficult problems without
       sitting at your terminal and trying various alternatives.

   2) They allowed a too wide range of experience levels in a single
       classroom. I have a very strong C background and a medium X and
       Widget background. There were people in the class that had no X
       and Widget background and were very very weak in C.

   3) The instructors had a real attitude. They made me feel that I should
       be priveleged to be in the presence of such 'masters'.

The series of books by O'Reilly & Associates provide an excellent tutorial
and reference for both Xlib and the Toolkit Intrinsics. Couple this with the
MOTIF manuals and the MOTIF example programs, and I think a week would be 
much more productive trying to teach yourself.