Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!369!8!Doug.Geoffray From: Doug.Geoffray@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Geoffray) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: JAWS CURSOR Message-ID: <13047@bunker.UUCP> Date: 23 Jul 90 20:33:39 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Doug.Geoffray@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:369/8 - The Catwalk BBS, Davie FL Lines: 51 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 9421 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] WS> That is one thing I like about jaws, I can press the WS> jaws cursor, which is similar to review mode, but you can write WS> in that mode. I can check what I want to set in the setup WS> menu, and change them without going in and out of review mode. Walter, Sorry for butting in but. I understand the jaws cursor mode and of course review mode. As you know we decided to go with a review mode with Vocal-Eyes. To tell you the truth, the only people I have ever heard say that the jaws approach is better are the people at henter-joyce and people that have been told about the idea but have not used it. Don't get me wrong. I am not nocking the idea at all. However, I would like to hear from you, an actual user. Let me give you my thoughts both pros and cons. I think the idea jaws is convaying about not having to go in and out of review mode doesn't really hold water. It seems to me that you have to constanly switch between jaws cursor and the applications cursor. Why is that different then entering and exiting review mode? They both take the same number of keystrokes. If you are currently using the jaws cursor and you issue a command which moves the applications cursor then it seems you would want to be relative to the new cursor position not where the jaws cursor was last left. Therefore, you would have to either synch the jaws cursor to the applications or return to the applications cursor mode. I must be missing something here. The idea sounds nice but if I stop and think about it, its really no different then review mode. In fact, while listening to the JAWS demo tape, I noticed he was switching back and forth between the jaws cursor and the applications cursor. It was hard to tell he was doing it because of interruptability. One nice thing I believe review mode has is the ability to review the screen without the fear of affecting the underlying applications program. With the JAWS cursor, if you hit a wrong key while you were reviewing the screen, the application would try and act on it. This could cause problems. I am sorry Walter. I did not mean to make this sound as negative as it seems. Also I did not mean to take my frustration out on you. The time and place was right so I thought I would add my two cents. If I am missing something, I would seriously consider placing such a feature in Vocal-Eyes but I really don't think it is any better then review mode. Thanks Doug -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!369!8!Doug.Geoffray Internet: Doug.Geoffray@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org