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From: Donald.Breda@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Donald Breda)
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Subject: Re: desqview and speech
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Date: 23 Jul 90 20:34:34 GMT
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[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

>> Don that is great that he got desqview working with the
>> sounding board and vocaleyes.  Now, we have to get it to
>> work with accent, and jaws.
 RA>  
 RA> Walter,
 RA>  
 RA> The key to the whole Desqview and speech thing is the 386 
 RA> machine!  I have gotten desqview working on a 286 with speech, 
 RA> but it is very difrerent and almost useless in my opinion 
 RA> because of the amount of useable memory by desqview.  On a 386, 
 RA> the memory management is quite different and desqview will use 
 RA> all available expanded memory for your diferent tasks, thereby 
 RA> freeing up your conventional dos memory.  Even folks that are 
 RA> sighted and have no special drivers like we have for speech, 
 RA> have found out that using desqview on a 286 has very limited 
 RA> usefullness at best.  There is one way of getting a little more 
 RA> out of a 286 with desqview, but it envolves dropping the memory 
 RA> on your mother board to 256K and configuring the rest aove that 
 RA> as expanded memory.  I believe this procedeure is called "back 
 RA> filling" and is the only way that desqview will recognize any 
 RA> expanded memory in your machine.  If you don't use this back 
 RA> filling technique, desqview will only take advantage of 64k of 
 RA> your e memory if you use a special driver they provide.  All 
 RA> the rest put into conventional memory leaving you very little 
 RA> to work tasks.  I may have a couple of things not quite correct 
 RA> here, speaking, this is what I understand the situation to be.  
 RA> I th with speech and something like desqview could have a lot 
 RA> of blinks. This could especially be true if some of the 
 RA> software to pay a little attention to multitasking environments 
 RA> such as D perhaps someday make their software "desqview aware". 
 RA>  I am rea some speech users getting into this multitasking 
 RA>  stuff.  I on machines, so unfortunately I haven't had the 
 RA>  pleasure o working with speech on a 386.  Someday, I hope to 
 RA>  be able to gi I would be really interested in hearing from 
 RA>  anyone else that h experimenting with multitasking and 
 RA>  speech... Regards, Rick 

Hi Rick; My apologies to anyone else about thelength of this message. I
would usually try to limit the quote. I think though that your comments
about desqview are a bit inaccurate as it relates to a 286 machine Rick.
Desqview can use expanded memory on a 286 if it is present, it just
usually is not present unless you buy an intell above board or
something like that. I have used desqview with an above board on a 286
giving me 2 megs of expanded memory above the 640k already present in
the machine and retaining the 384k of extended memory for a ram disk.
Desqview will use the intell above board just fine. Speech programs just
by there nature though I don't think are really compatible with software
such as desqview. I say this having run soft vert vocal eyes and screen
reader with desqview on a 286 machine though so you can see where I am
comming from when I make a statement like that. I haven't tried running
speech after desqview though since I would really like to get it to work
with speech loaded before desqview. I have gotten it to work although it
is just not a pleasant way to operate. Sacrificing the comfort of normal
DOS operation for the problems operating with desqview hasn't appealed
to me as of yet. I must do some more work on it though since I think it
can be made to run fairly nicely if i just don't give up. Haven't had
enough time to devote to it, thats the real problem.

... Abled, Blinktalk and sSilver xpress in Boston 9600 HST

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