Path: utzoo!utstat!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!bcm!rice!uw-beaver!milton!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!galileo.berkeley.edu!jbuck From: jbuck@galileo.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Re: Time for 8 bit news, isn't it?????. Message-ID: <37713@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 23 Jul 90 18:21:59 GMT References: <1990Jul13.022224.25441@lth.se> <3119.269d97ea@mccall.com> <777@hades.ausonics.oz.au> <15688@bfmny0.BFM.COM> <+7Y$AV&@rpi.edu> <1990Jul21.091529.29557@lth.se> <1857@krafla.rhi.hi.is> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: jbuck@galileo.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) Lines: 29 In article <1857@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes: |> I fully agree that we need an 8-bit news system (as well as 8-bit E-mail), |> as this would make life a lot easier for those of us not using English. I agree. But any solution must take into account Problem #0: Many sites will continue to run the software they are using now, and no amount of cajoling will cause them to install new, 8-bit compatible software. In some cases, this is because the organization gives news and mail a low priority (doesn't bring in money, etc). Many sites are still running obsolete software and will continue to do so. To install new software people need an incentive. There is a very small incentive, unfortunately, for sites in English-speaking countries to install software to support 8-bit character sets. This means that any new software must co-exist with the current environment. One way to do this is to have gateway sites do conversion. There are relatively few connections between the US and Europe -- most traffic across the Atlantic goes through uunet. Character translation could be done on the uunet-mcsun link -- stripping accents on articles arriving from Europe, remapping characters so when an American types braces in articles in comp.lang.c, readers in Europe see braces, instead of language-specific characters. -- Joe Buck jbuck@galileo.berkeley.edu {uunet,ucbvax}!galileo.berkeley.edu!jbuck