Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:13008 rec.audio:23027 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!emory!mephisto!udel!haven!decuac!grebyn!vrdxhq!bill From: bill@vrdxhq.verdix.com (William Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.audio Subject: Re: Digital/Analog converter help needed Message-ID: <35906@vrdxhq.verdix.com> Date: 20 Jul 90 16:01:59 GMT References: <3550.26a1d2d7@ccvax.ucd.ie> Followup-To: sci.electronics Organization: Verdix Corporation, Chantilly, VA Lines: 42 in article <3550.26a1d2d7@ccvax.ucd.ie>, b_haughey@ccvax.ucd.ie (Brian J Haughey) says: > What I am looking for is info on D-A converters that can directly drive > speakers. My query is : would the scaling factors of such a D-A have > to change as the volume went from very low to very high ? AND most important: > Any advice, tips, or references welcome. Thanks a lot. What are you trying to accomplish? Low cost? Amplifier chips start about 50 cents. This does bring up a good subject though... first, no, it's hard enough to do 16 bit D/A, much less put power handling into the same chip. But a higher output D/A would be nice. Best would be a high voltage output. This output would be essentially passive: a resistor ladder connected to the output by (FET) switches. Digital volume contol could be used but controlling volume in analog would be better. Passive filters could be used. If the voltage was high enough no voltage amplification would be required. Current amplification would be needed in ther form of unity gain buffers. Merely increasing the voltage ratings of a D/A chip is very possible. If digital could provide a means of eliminating almost all analog circuitry this would answer many audiophile concerns. Digital is complicated enough on its own without following it with complex analog. A "digital speaker" has been built (Meridian). All it really eliminates is analog cabling. This is not enough to justify it, especially if there's any chance of using analog sources. ANOTHER POSSIBILITY: "One bit" conversion at power. This is simialar to a "switching" or "class D" amplifier but there's also big differences. Despite the high effieciency and power output possible this type of amplifier is not popular and for good reason. Analog type switching amplifiers rely on loop feedback. "One bit" D/A conversion if a forward only process. Don't know what this would do with a complex load though. "One bit" conversion could also be used for the high voltage D/A concept above. Hope someone can benefit from these ideas. I'm not finished mucking with conventional analog yet. bill S.