Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbnews!military Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: F-19 vs. F-117 Message-ID: <1990Jul23.203255.7681@cbnews.att.com> Date: 23 Jul 90 20:32:55 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 30 Approved: military@att.att.com From: att!utzoo!henry >From: geraldp@mentor.com (Gerald Page) >I've heard a lot about the F-117 being the first "stealth fighter", but >not much at all about the F-19. I've read several military-type novels >about it... Almost certainly the stealth fighter was originally going to be the F-19. We know the s.f. has been around for quite a while, and there's also been a noticeable gap in the designations right there: F-18, okay, F-20, okay, but nobody's ever heard of an F-19. Almost everyone concluded that the F-19 was the s.f. Furthermore, "F-117" theoretically is an improper designation, as there were no F-112 through F-116 and the numbering got restarted at the low end two decades ago anyway. The best account I've heard of how the "F-117" designation got started is that the various Soviet fighters in US inventory are informally known by such numbers, so as to avoid announcing their nature in radio traffic, and for a while there was a deliberate attempt to obscure the s.f. by encouraging confusion between it and the Soviet fighters. (For example, there was a crash a few years ago, the details of which were kept highly secret, which was reported at various times as an s.f. crash and a MiG crash.) Why the USAF ended up sanctifying that designation is anyone's guess. There is a lot of politics in those designations sometimes, as witness the "F/A-18" (the rules say that multirole combat aircraft are just plain "F"). Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry