Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!rutgers!deejay!bench!silos From: silos@bench.sublink.ORG (Paolo Pennisi) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: World's Cheapest Unix Engine Message-ID: <458@bench.sublink.ORG> Date: 14 Jul 90 03:01:16 GMT References: <2748@skye.ed.ac.uk> <31093@cup.portal.com> <457@bench.sublink.ORG> <2698CE85.50A3@tct.uucp> Organization: Paolo Pennisi, Milano Italia Lines: 38 In article <2698CE85.50A3@tct.uucp>, chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: > According to silos@bench.sublink.ORG (Paolo Pennisi): > >How can you compare an handicapped version of a chip whose father and > >grandfather are crippled 16 bit segmented processor, [...] to a real > >32bit, semi Harvard, data and instruction cache processor, with a real > >32 bit data bus a a real 32bit address bus, support for multiprocessing > >and more. > > Because usable Unix is available for them both. > > Any more questions? > -- > Chip Salzenberg at ComDev/TCT , Yes, Xenix 286 on a 286 clone is usable, I'm using it right now, posting this news, but... what about: segments, 64k segment limits, near & far pointer, large model compiles, 16bit integers, stacks overflow, hours spent on PD software to catch a bug, which with a normal 32bit processor would'nt hard more than a warning... (pointers (far:32bit) to int (16but). Yes, it is usable, to receive and send e-mail, to read and post news (if u get the bug i mentioned or u have the patched version). Yes, with a 386SX, all these problems are gone... but SX at clones are slower than 286 to run DOS, OS/2... let's think of Unix... I can hardly stand a comparison with a 386DX... the SX is far away, the 286 doesn't exist (wot... my computer is vanishing....acc!). Let's have a look of the prices again... 68030-16Mhz, sold in quantity (1k) for 95$, 68882-16Mhz for just 44$. These are clone prices... Let's start to think why Intel keeps it prices for inferior silicon so high? Well, I gone away from the main path, it is my flame fever... I'm sorry. No more questions! Paolo. -- (ARPA) silos@bench.sublink.ORG Paolo Pennisi (BANG) ...!deejay!bench!silos via Solari 19 (MISC) ppennisi on BIX & PTPOSTEL 20144 Milano ITALIA ----< S U B L I N K N E T W O R K : a new way to *NIX communications >-----