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From: geoff@hinode.East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans
Subject: LM/X (Was: Re: Sun SparcStation as Novell Network server (ethernet))
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Date: 3 Aug 90 13:36:26 GMT
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Quoth ittai@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Ittai Hershman) (in <4424@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU>):
#Another possible future product for Sparcs is LM/X (Microsoft
#LanManager running under Unix).  HP did the first implementation, and
#the OSF has announced HP LM/X as part of its DCE (Distributed
#Computing Environment) Offering.  Sun is unlikely to offer the OSF DCE
#(unfortunately!), but I'm sure others will port it and make it
#available.

Probably. Note also that OSF endorsed PC-NFS as part of the DCE.
[...]
#A footnote: LanMan does not specify a transport, as I understand it,
#and so you could have (and in fact 3com has announced product) TCP/IP
#as the transport between LanMan client and LanMan server.  This is
#good because the client PC can then run one protocol stack and get
#PC Networking (i.e. LanMan), FTP, Telnet, et al.  Which is precisely
#what I would like to have.

This is indeed one of the profiles defined by the X/Open PC Interworking
Group. However, you should be aware that running LM/X over the Internet
Protocol Suite (what X/Open calls "IPS") involves running the
RFC1001/1002 NETBIOS-over-TCP stack, which is large and (since most people
have only implemented "B" mode) restricted to broadcastable nets
(bridges OK, routers generally not). I suspect that most LM/Xs will
run NETBIOS-over-ISO: I think that's AT&Ts preferred stack.

Geoff

PS    Of course, X/Open also blessed what they called "(PC)NFS" for
      PC-to-Unix connectivity, and you can do all that today without
      waiting for LM/X or portable NetWare.

-- Geoff Arnold, PC-NFS architect, Sun Microsystems. (geoff@East.Sun.COM)   --
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