Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!uwm.edu!bionet!hayes.fai.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: rich@pro-exchange.cts.com (Rich Sims) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Need Info on Motorola Portable Cellular Message-ID: <10212@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 28 Jul 90 10:23:47 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 46 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 527, Message 1 of 8 In-Reply-To: message from dave%westmark@uunet.uu.net > Your cellular service provider may offer to include two telephone > numbers on the same bill, if that's what you meant by 'account number' No, I was referring to having two separate units using the same number, in the same way an "extension phone" works in your home. > These 'widgets' are identified by an electronic serial number > (ESN), a home system identifier, and a mobile telephone number. All > but the ESN are field changeable -- on some models it requires burning > a PROM, others allow keyboard-entry administration of the same data. Several conversations with people at both BellSouth Mobility and Cellular One have resulted in an interesting pattern. Although I am not getting any information from them, it's the *way* I'm not getting it that is odd. The stock answer to this question is "we do not offer this service", but at no time has anyone said "it can't be done" or "you can't do that". Although I'm unfamiliar with the exact process that is used when a cellular phone "connects", it seems to me that the only problem would be calls coming _TO_ the cellular, since both might (would?) attempt to receive the call. Why is the ESN not "field changeable"? Is it burned into a PROM, or what? Can anyone point me at a reference (or group of them) which would provide a good starting place for me to get up to speed on cellular technology and operation? That would be more helpful than trying to tap the vast levels of knowledge represented by the readers/contributors of this group, when what I am looking for appears to be very basic and trivial information. BTW - in my previous message, I note I used the word "transportable" ... sigh! Proof that my fingers are not necessarily connected to my mind at all times, since the particular phone in question is a "portable" Motorola model. [Moderator's Note: The ESN is really about the only protection the cellular telcos have against fraud. Yes, people tamper with the ESN on cellular phones for fraudulent reasons. Nothing is perfect, but the ESN is deliberatly made difficult to change for that reason. PT]