Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!hayes.fai.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: US Long Distance Billing Scheme is a Crock Message-ID: <10239@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 30 Jul 90 17:52:21 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Segue Software, Cambridge MA Lines: 42 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 529, Message 5 of 10 In article <61563@bu.edu.bu.edu> is written: >Practically every other country in the world I've been to bills long >distance calls for a fixed unit price (about a nickel) for a variable >unit of time (unlimited down to a second or so), instead of the US >scheme whereby a fixed unit of time (a minute) is billed at a variable >price (free up to several dollars). >The former, most popular scheme makes it possible: > [to do all sorts of swell stuff] On the other hand, the US approach lets the telcos avoid having to feed the entire tarriff structure into every end office, and to have quantity discounts, extended area flat rate plans, and all sorts of other stuff that would be impractical with an impulse-based scheme. My long-distance carrier doesn't know the real cost for each call until the end of the month when they compute the quantity discount based on the total call volume from all seven of the lines (in four separate locations in three states) on my home phone bill. There's no doubt, sent-paid long distance calls from a pay phone are sort of an orphan, and are, as far as I can tell, the last major area of US telephony in which there is no competition at all -- intra-LATA calls are handled by the local telco, inter-LATA calls by AT&T, and that's that. But I suspect that, given the relatively small fraction of calls that are made from pay phones, the US scheme is not a bad idea. I also note that a major disadvantage of impulse systems is that until recently, there has been no way whatsoever to get an itemized bill, and if you believe that the impulse counter on your line is overcharging you, no way to challenge the phone company's bill. Does anyone have any actual data on the number of calls made from payphones, and how many of them are local, how many sent-paid toll calls, and how many charged elsewhere, e.g. calling card or collect? Regards, John Levine, johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|lotus}!esegue!johnl