Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ucsd!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!thom From: thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Thom Gillespie) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Logo for college-level computer literacy courses Message-ID: <37890@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 31 Jul 90 21:29:44 GMT References: <1990Jul31.195854.4630@cs.rochester.edu> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Thom Gillespie) Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley Lines: 26 In article <1990Jul31.195854.4630@cs.rochester.edu> Cesar A. Quiroz writes: >We are sort of considering running a computer literacy class with >something like Logo instead of Pascal. I would appreciate hearing >about other people's experiences with this idea. The class is very >time-constrained, and most of the students don't expect to do much >programming later. > > Cesar Augusto Quiroz Gonzalez > Department of Computer Science > University of Rochester > Rochester, NY 14627 Why not use HyperCard with "The Analytical Engine, an introduction to computer science using HyperCard" by Decker & Hirshfield. HyperCard has the advantage of being object oriented and fun. Logo was only ok because there was no HyperCard 'back then', and usually all anyone wanted to do was Turtle Graphics, rarely did anyone use the list processing part of Logo. HyperCard also has the advantage of being a powerful enough tool to be used 'after' class for 'other' things. You don't normally do things like that with Logo. If you're stuck with IBMs then you are out of luck unless you want to run ToolBook under Windows 3 and maybe write "The Analytical Engine II, an introduction to computer science using ToolBook" There are pluses to everything :-> --Thom Gillespie .