Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!umich!terminator!dabo.ifs.umich.edu!rees From: rees@dabo.ifs.umich.edu (Jim Rees) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: /etc/killall, what is it? Keywords: undocumented, dangerous Message-ID: <1990Jul28.204241.14946@terminator.cc.umich.edu> Date: 28 Jul 90 20:42:41 GMT References: <551@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> <1990Jul28.142626.28237@IRO.UMontreal.CA> Sender: usenet@terminator.cc.umich.edu (usenet news) Reply-To: rees@citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees) Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project Lines: 22 In article <1990Jul28.142626.28237@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, goutier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Claude Goutier) writes: It is not the first time that someone discover an undocumented program that happens to be dangerous. I don't consider killall to be dangerous to the system, since it doesn't let you kill any process you don't own. It may be dangerous to individual users, but anyone who runs a program named "killall" without first finding out what it does deserves whatever they get. I suggest that every such program be considered suspect and that we ask the software provider what does those programs are doing there. Are they trapdoor ones ? Do their lawyers will provide compensation if any wrongdoing happens because of those ? Apollo may be occasionally incompetent but I doubt that they are malicious. When you are trying to decide whether to trust a piece of software, you need to ask yourself whether you trust its author, and adjust your trust level accordingly. See Ken Thompson's Turing award speech for an excellent discussion of this topic.