Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!tuegate.tue.nl!eba!wjw From: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: /etc/killall, what is it? Keywords: undocumented, dangerous, /etc/killall Message-ID: <560@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> Date: 30 Jul 90 12:24:12 GMT References: <551@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> <1990Jul28.142626.28237@IRO.UMontreal.CA> <1990Jul28.204241.14946@terminator.cc.umich.edu> Sender: wjw@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) Reply-To: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl Followup-To: comp.sys.apollo Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Lines: 36 >In article <1990Jul28.142626.28237@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, >goutier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Claude Goutier) writes: > >I don't consider killall to be dangerous to the system, since it doesn't let >you kill any process you don't own. It may be dangerous to individual users, >but anyone who runs a program named "killall" without first finding out what >it does deserves whatever they get. > I agree to the above statement, BUT it does harm programs which are not owned by the user!!!!!! Running 'killall' kills the service-process-manager. It runs under the user: "user.server.none" and is aborted by killall. Now the 'spm' is not a real vital program, and it does not crash the node but it is very anoing when user complain that they can't 'crp' because somebody else killed the spm! And what about: "Can only be run by the SUPER-USER"! Since I now know that it belongs to Sys5, I'm going to delete it. (We don't run Sys5 any longer) So it solves my problem, but all those outthere running Sys5 should change the settings to something like rwx------ root wheel /etc/killall to fullfil the manual's requirement. Regards, Willem Jan Withagen Eindhoven University of Technology DomainName: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl Digital Systems Group, Room EH 10.10 BITNET: ELEBWJ@HEITUE5.BITNET P.O. 513 Tel: +31-40-473401 5600 MB Eindhoven The Netherlands