Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!sdcc6!amos!jonah From: jonah@amos.ucsd.edu (Jonah Stich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: 3200 pics Message-ID: <12116@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Date: 1 Aug 90 16:47:20 GMT References: <3433.apple.net2@pro-grouch> <1990Jul27.204456.26322@laguna.ccsf.ca <26b4a100-582.3comp.sys.apple2-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> Sender: news@sdcc6.ucsd.edu Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 58 Nntp-Posting-Host: amos.ucsd.edu In article <26b4a100-582.3comp.sys.apple2-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> vortex@vpnet.chi.il.us (Jason J. Levit) writes: > > If we've got this wonderful ability to create 3200 color pictures, > shouldn't someone write a paint program to paint them? I don't think > it would be all that hard to do. Well, I know of three paint programs currently being developed. THere's the one I'm working on (Paint 3200, to match View 3200) which will be shareware ($20) and should be out about the end of the month (?!) Then there's one called Dream Graphix, which will be commercial ($69.95, I think) and, last I heard, will be released on Aug. 10 (?!?!) THen there's a third, which I've heard is MUCH more powerful than ours :(, but I don't really know much about it. As for it not being that hard, well, I just say that it's not the easiest tng I've ever written.... :) > Also, how did people *get* those 3200 color pics? Is there a special > type of conversion program? Is there a way to write one easily? A > lot of unanswered questions for something that would get us some > wonderful pictures. If someone came up with a conversion program or > something, we could have some really *awesome* pictures! Well, the current 3200 color pics have all been converted from other sources. John Brooks originally wrote a converter, resulting in the first images (the plane, the botle of wine, the apple logo, etc. More recently, the French United Crackers Klan wrote an IFF converter that took pictures from the Amiga and IBM and converted them--doing a DAMN good job, I might add. They are responsible for the 3200 color picture disk uploaded to America OnLine. Niether of these converters have been released. :( Ron Mercer is/was working on a converter that worked on the raw data files from various digitizers avaliable for the GS. I've seen some of these pictures, and, while they're better than the 16 color pictures, most of them don't turn out great. I know a beta version of this converter, called Emerald View, is avaliable on AO, in the Graphics forum. > I hope you finish your UnGiffer for the GS, and include 3200 color > capabilites in it. The pictures would come up 1,000 times better > than they come out now, and they already come out wonderfully. I'm not sure who this was directed at, but I do know that there are SEVERAL 3200 color GIF and IFF converters in the works, all to be released to the public. I would think that by this time next year, even if there is no new GS, that 3200 color graphics will be the standard for graphics. There's SO much you can do with them, it's amazing! > This is such an untapped ability! Maybe we can start to make use of > it... Ditto. The problem is that DISPLAYING them is quite a chore, but you CAN do animation while it's being displayed. The DreamGraphix demo that was uploaded to AO had both music and animation, while displaying a 3200 color pic! There are also rumors of a 3200 color GAME coming out soon (from the makers of Dream Graphix.) I really love this 3200 color stufand encourage EVERYONE who's at all interested to play around with it. If you need some help, feel free to send me EMail (jonah@amos.ucsd.edu). >Jason J. Levit - KB9BUU | A good planet is hard to find. Let's save this one! onah SJonah Stich