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From: jpoplaws@telesci.UUCP (Joseph E Poplawski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Piracy and Software
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Date: 30 Jul 90 03:38:33 GMT
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In article <1990Jul22.074738.22756@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> wlj1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Wayne L Jebian) writes:
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>alot of pirates are kinda angry because recently in the "elite" world, there 
>hasn't been alot of games released.

And what is wrong with the Elite's holding out on games?  If someone wants it
that bad, then let them crack it themselves.  Being a former member of ESI
(EagleSoft) with Gunner, Mitch, MJH, and the rest, I can tell you that they 
have specific reasons for holding out.  I personally had over 8000 disks of
Commodore 64/128/Amiga Software at one time and ran 3 different pirate BBS's
including Tower of The Anark, Sorcery Palace I, Sorcery Palace II, and King
Tuts Tomb, and I always had the newest software available but kept it away
from many people until certain dates until the remainder of the Elite's got
a hold of it and had a chance to play and master it.  Why give it to the peons
before they got to play?  As a matter of fact, I can remember giving quite a
few originals to Mitch while at Gunner's house for him to crack.  We had
Gunship months before we released it...  

>because of this, alot of groups are doing
>re-releases <which is surprising to me since this is virtually blasphemous in 
>the "elite" world>

This is usually done by the Elite-want-to-be's who want to cop off of another
persons crack.  It is even more sickening when they take off the original
title screen.  This is another reason for the "holding out" of the newest
software by the Elite's, they would like to see some of these peon pirate groups
make a successful crack of their own.

>and alot of people are saying/ranting about the 64's death. 
>I guess the barometer is easy enoug: when Qlink dies, the 64 is officially dead
><r when they are finally discontinued>

But even after Qlink, the 64 will be around for years.  It has lived a long
life and in my opinion was the best machine of its type for its time.  The
new software will stop coming out, but the old software and the pirated software
will be around for a long time, making the 64 live even longer.  I still have
my original 64 from years ago and a half or dozen others that I will be using
in addition to my other machines for a long time.  Even my little brother and
sister have a ball with them...

But then again, you may be right about Qlink and the death of the 64.  I would
not know I have never even logged onto Qlink... (never found a need to, I
always found what I wanted off of ESI-HQ)

Well enough rambling...

-Jo
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