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From: jordan@Morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Classic MacII ROM incompatibilities?
Message-ID: <1337@s5.Morgan.COM>
Date: 1 Aug 90 14:54:16 GMT
Organization: Morgan Stanley, & Co., Inc. / New York City, NY
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I have a "Classic MacII" (purchased in November '87) that I recently
purchased a Radius Pivot display for.  I've had two cards get delivered
apparently DOA ... I tried it on a friend's IIx, and it also didn't
work.  Symptoms: card does not get recognized on boot, Pivot CDEV does
not show up in the Control Panel.  Anyway, someone from Radius
mentioned that on the old MacII ROMs, there was an incompatibility with
large monitors (specifically, he said, NuBus cards that address more
than 1 Mb of memory).  I've called *every* Apple Authorized Dealer in
Manhattan, and they *all* are idiots!  No one even knows what a ROM is?!?.

	Me:	"Hi, I'd like to know what it would take to get the
		 most recent MacII ROM set?"
	Them:	"Don't you mean RAM?"
	Me:	"No, I mean ROM."
	Them:	"I'll transfer you to Service"
	Me:	"Thanks ..."
	Serv:	"Hello?"
	Me:	"Hi, I'd like to know what it would take to get the
		 most recent MacII ROM set?"
	Them:	"Don't you mean RAM?"
	Me:	"Thanks ... <click>"

A few questions:

	1) Aren't MacII ROM upgrades free?  My machine is no longer
	   under warranty, and I can't afford the downtime of taking
	   a machine in to let these IDIOTS mess with my machine.  I'm
	   capable of soing the swap myself (I did the PMMU, hey, I'm
	   practically an EE) ...

	2) Am I barking up the wrong tree?  Has anyone else had a problem
	   with ROM incompatibilities?  I have a PMMU that I got with
	   Virtual, and it works, so I don't have the ROM that doesn't
	   like PMMUs, but I can't figure out why I would have gotten
	   *two* DOA video cards ...

Thanks!

/jordan