Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!sumax!quick!amc-gw!intek01.UUCP!mark From: mark@intek01.uucp (Mark McWiggins) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re^2: SVR4 shipping, sort of, allegedly; Microport is baaaaack Message-ID: <1990Jul31.222503.2034@intek01.uucp> Date: 31 Jul 90 22:25:03 GMT References: <1990Jul30.172711.28437@intek01.uucp> <1990Jul31.013258.14239@nstar.uucp> Organization: Integration Technologies, Inc. (Intek) Lines: 46 larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) writes: >mark@intek01.uucp (Mark McWiggins) writes: >>Microport (+1 800 FOR UNIX) is back out of Chapter 11 (or whatever chapter >>they were in) and shipping a "developer's release" of SVR4 with the >>kitchen sink (TCP/IP, NFS, RFS, X, Streams, everything I can think of >>but DWB). I asked when and the guy said "now." Don't know what >>"devleoper's release" means ("buggy?" "don't even think of calling for >>support?" (1/2 :) ). Now for the bad news: it comes on tape only, and >>costs $2500. >$2500 for Microport - is that list price? Is there a discount >for VAR's and or developers? No discounts and no reselling for this release -- I called back and they said they're only SELLING to developers right now. He said it's for "those who want to get the jump on the competition" and that "we're shipping a lot." He said the "commercial release" plans aren't final yet, but probably would list for $1600 or so. I asked what's included in the "developer's release" and not in the "commercial release" and he said that decision hadn't been made yet. I also spoke again with a lady at UHC. She seemed a little more flexible in talking about VAR programs and whatnot, but it's all still up in the air. They're also not shipping until August 15. I got an insight from the UHC lady into the basis for these stratospheric prices: she said that AT&T is offering their SVR4 binary for $5000! I took this as a signal that AT&T doesn't want to be in the binary business anymore, but apparently UHC and the reborn Microport took it as a green light to price themselves right out of the market. I received a piece of E-mail from a guy claiming out that the sublicensing fees for V.4 are actually LOWER than those for V.3.2. I think I'd read this somewhere else, also; can someone post the True Facts? Also, it would really help if anyone from Everex, Dell, Interactive, and/or Intel would post some inkling of their plans. -- Mark McWiggins Integration Technologies, Inc. (Intek) +1 206 455 9935 DISCLAIMER: I could be wrong ... 1400 112th Ave SE #202 Bellevue WA 98004 uunet!intek01!mark Ask me about C++!