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From: chrisb@escargot.UUCP (Chris Bradley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: himem.sys
Message-ID: <3744@escargot.UUCP>
Date: 3 Aug 90 06:57:32 GMT
References: <1990Jul27.154843.21611@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Coredump Central
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In article <1990Jul27.154843.21611@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) writes:
>I sort of like Windows 3.0, but it has one terribly irritating flaw -
>fatal, in fact: it won't run in extended 386 mode, the only useful way
>to run it, without the himem.sys that comes with it. With himem.sys
>installed, none of my other 386 programs will run.

What????!? I have Himem.sys installed on my Intel 386/25 box and I can run all
of my 386 based software. By 386 "extended" I assume that you mean 386
"enhanced"?? It sounds as if you're confusing EMM386 and HIMEM.SYS - HIMEM.SYS
Is a protected mode program only.

>FLAME ON!!!!!
>
>WHY, OH WHY, Microsoft, didn't you put the himem.sys functionality
>inside Windows itself, so that other programs can be run without rebooting?? 

Obviously you have no idea what HIMEM.SYS does. It is an attempt to standardize
a way of managing extended memory. It has MUCH more functionality that the
brain-dead BIOS routines.

>IS there a way around this? Somebody surely could make a himem.sys program
>that can be turned off. Qemm for example, can be turned off. OR
>make one that can be removed?

Again, I think you're talking about EMM386. HIMEM Takes away all extended
memory from the BIOS and manages it internally.

>Is anyone at Microsoft listening??????????????

FLAME ON!!!!!

Attitudes like this really piss me off. Basically it's an "I don't have my way
so I'm going to bitch until I do" attitude that generally makes me wish people
like this weren't my customers.

Hey bud, give Microsoft a *BREAK*. Windows 3.0 is *HUGE*, and it is IMPOSSIBLE
to give you every driver you need, even to make it run on a clone-a-tronic-shit
blender-3 machine with a MegaVGA Super Duper Video adapter and your Taiwaneese
hard disk controller.

HIMEM Is an attempt to manage extended memory, and it proves to be quite
logical and useful.

Before you bitch and complain about other products, make sure you understand
them fully first.

FLAME OFF!!!!

-->Chris

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