Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!mintaka!bloom-beacon!ciba-geigy.ch!bpistr From: bpistr@ciba-geigy.ch (Joseph C Pistritto) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: VOM Look Message-ID: <9007300741.AA06862@zit.cigy.> Date: 30 Jul 90 13:00:40 GMT References: <9007271840.AA15107@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: The Internet Lines: 28 > >From a couple of estheticians: > >you would think they could invest some time into making them more visually > >appealing. Would 3-D color effects really be that hard to do for one of ... > > >What about a compromise: decent 3d look which does NOT waste resources > >(not only CPU cycles) the way Motif does ? > > Does beautiful graphic design depend on fake 3-D ornamentation? I hope > not! But whatever esthetic principles inspire our would-be graphic designers, > I hope they will also consider screen "real estate" as a resource. Most of > the window managers I've seen want to add considerably to the size of a window, > forcing me to overlap windows that could otherwise be adjacent. Twm, to its > credit, allows me to control the size of these decorations. Window managers > from the "look fascism" camps aren't generally so flexible. > No, of course not. On the other hand, I was a real die-hard UWM user, (sort of the ultimate in 'minimalist' window managers), and now use Motif (and MWM) becauase we're using it for a project. I find that I can mostly get rid of and control the size of the decorations down to the point where I can still effectively use 99% of my screen. For instance I have several 'fixed' windows on my screen, which have no decorations at all (nor even a border, as UWM would insert). You can get a fairly good approximation of the 'minimalist' look and feel even with MWM, if you're willing to put in some time setting up the defaults files appropriately. -jcp- -- Joseph C. Pistritto (bpistr@ciba-geigy.ch, jcp@brl.mil) Ciba Geigy AG, R1241.1.01, Postfach CH4002, Basel, Switzerland Tel: +41 61 697 6155 (work) +41 61 692 1728 (home) GMT+2hrs!