Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:13137 rec.ham-radio:22490 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo!tweed From: tweed@apollo.HP.COM (David Tweed) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.ham-radio Subject: Re: Has anyone made any homemade valves (tubes), semiconductors ... Summary: it's possible Message-ID: <4bd35f61.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 26 Jul 90 18:41:00 GMT Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Systems Division, Chelmsford, MA Lines: 81 From: GMoretti@massey.ac.nz (Giovanni Moretti) > You can make resistors out of pencil leads, capacitors and > inductors are easy, headphones are possible (not easy) and you can > use Galena (lead sulphide I think for a diode), but what about things > with GAIN. > > I can't be the only one who has these thoughts ... You aren't; you're following the footsteps of a long string of hobbyists. From: cccph@eel.cs.ucla.edu (Charles Hobbs) > Transistors, etc. would most likely be too difficult to make at home > because of the necessity for "clean rooms" (rooms with no appreciable > level of dust floating around. Dust will short-out a transistor, > integrated circuit, etc.) Nah, you're thinking of ICs, where the dust messes up the photomasking. Remember, the first point-contact transistors were made by hand in the lab. A long time ago, I read a story about a person who built his own vacuum tubes at home. The story was old then, and I don't remember where I read it (probably Popular Electronics, back when it was still in the smaller format), but I'll try to summarize. (Disclaimer: I've never done this myself!) Back when tubes were first being developed, most of the publicized effort was going into the Edison/DeForest type of "tube" that was based on the light *bulb* and required glassblowing skills. However, there was a grassroots effort (primarily by Canadian experimentors, I believe) that was based on using a metal *tube*. It is this second type that is much easier to fabricate at home. Take a piece of tubing (copper, I think) and find some hard-rubber stoppers that fit it tightly, one with a hole, the other without. The one with a hole is fitted with a glass tube that gets connected to your vacuum pump. The metal tube itself is your anode; you still need a filament and a grid. Poke some fairly heavy-guage (#18) solid copper wires through the stoppers (making their own holes): one in one stopper, and two in the other. The filament (cannibalized from a light bulb?) gets stretched down the center of the tube, strung between two of these wires (crimped, not soldered!), and the grid is the third wire, spiraling around that. Remember that the filament is going to get pretty hot, so provide a fairly-long thermal path before you get to the stopper, otherwise you won't be able to maintain any sort of vaccuum. (The author of the article said that he'd forgotten this, and when he powered up his first tube, "... the vaccuum immediately left with a piercing shriek.") OK, put everything together and seal all joints with sealing wax. ("What's sealing wax?" :-). I'll try to do an ASCII picture: rubber copper tube rubber stopper =========================================== stopper ########## \ /-\ /-\ /-\ ########## ########## /\ | | | | | | \---------------- grid connection fil.-------------/ | | | | | | | ########## ########## +======|=======|=======|==+ ########## --------------- | | | | | | | /------------- filament (cathode) to --------------- | | | | | | | / ########## vaccuum ######## \-/ \-/ \-/ \/ ########## pump ===========================================-------- plate (anode) The loops in the filament wires help keep them from getting too hot where they go through the stoppers. Don't worry about all that stuff having to do with "getters", etc. Most experimentors just left the vaccuum pump running while they were operating the tube. At this point, pump out the air, apply power to the filament (carefully!) and to the anode (see if you get a current flow). Then experiment to see what kind of control you get with the grid. I'm sure it'll take a lot of cut-and-try to get any significant amount of gain, so have fun! -- Dave Tweed