Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: nzt1939@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (William M. Aldo) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: FLEETEX Message-ID: <1990Jul31.023128.20234@cbnews.att.com> Date: 31 Jul 90 02:31:28 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 36 Approved: military@att.att.com From: nzt1939@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (William M. Aldo) >From: apctrc!crx34!zrra07@uunet.UU.NET (Randall R. Appleton) > >I have a question for all who might know. What are the miltary exercises >like? How good are they, and to what extent can one make observations >about real warfare from them? How do they determine if someone is >'hit', and what happens to him? > >For example, if I notice that in exercises I tend to loose 70% of my tanks >per engagement, should I expect a similar number in real combat? > >Also, what are they like? > >Randy I can't speak on all military exercises; however, in general, I do know that they try to make them as realistic as possible. There are usually referees/umpires throughout 'battle-sites' to grade/gauge the units involved. For your example (no flames intended), LOOSE 70% OF YOUR TANKS.....;-) While it's definitely possible over time, or for a specific battle, per engagement is unrealistic.....unless your intelligence data that you're working with is piss-poor or the individual(s) is totally ignorant of tank warfare. Of course, there is always the chance of ambush or the ever-present anti-tank missile (shoulder-fired or otherwise) to con- tend with, but 70%.......whoa! If you loose tanks at this rate, you shouldn't be in real combat. I'm not a combat-vet, but I am a veteran tank commander.....and it has been awhile since I participated in military exercises/wargames. -- Mark