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From: gwh%tornado.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert)
Newsgroups: sci.military
Subject: Re: Kfir
Summary: Some Info
Message-ID: <1990Aug2.042256.2963@cbnews.att.com>
Date: 2 Aug 90 04:22:56 GMT
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From: gwh%tornado.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert)

In article <1990Jul31.022951.19855@cbnews.att.com> Don.Allingham@FtCollins.NCR.COM (Don Allingham) writes:
>
>Isn't the Kfir C-2 Isreal's Mirage III derivative?  How does this
>compare to other fighters?  If I remember correctly, didn't this have
>drastically improved performance over the Mirage?

Yes.  The Kfir evolved from the Mirage III.  The C-1 was the first model;
having as the major change a switch from the (Atar?) french 13-15K lb thrust
engine to a US made J79 with over 17 thousand pounds thrust.  The big change
was rerouting some systems internally and adding cooling air ducts to the 
airframe (hotter engine).  The C-2 variant went further; it took the C-1 and
added maneuvering canards.  While not large enough to be a primary control
surface, they made some significant maneuverability improvements.  The Mirage 3
was good for its time; the C-2 Kfir is not as good as the newer superfighters
but not far behind.  Since then, the C-7 variant has made avionics advances.

The Israelis don't consider the Kfir their front-line fighter.  They use the
F-15 for long range and F-16 for short range high-priority missions.  But
the Kfir fills in where there isn't a Eagle or Falcon.

Hope that's useful.


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