Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: homosexuality Message-ID: Date: 24 Jul 90 08:49:10 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Grebyn Timesharing, Vienna, VA, USA Lines: 39 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article miken@mirror.tmc.com (Mike Nappo) writes: > Convoluted? You bet. > > It sort of reminds me of those good nuns who used to torment > [actually brutalize] their left handed students into becoming > right handed. To be otherwise, was deemed a defect. > A number of people seem to have this habit of pointing out something that some nuns did or some priests did, and equating that with Catholic Doctrine. Hey people, we are all sinners!! What *some* catholics *DO* (whether they are clerical/religious or not) has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with what the Catholic Church *teaches* as being infallibly true. And even among the truths that the Catholic Church teaches, some truths are more central to salvation that others. So even in discussing certain truths, we need to keep them in perspective. I will be the first to admit that there have even been some popes who were scandelous public sinners. This proves only one thing: some people are hypocrites (or hold beliefs which are loftier than their ability to conform to them, which is weakness not hypocrisy). But statements which claim that the sinful behavior of certain persons of any particular denomination somehow have anything to do with the truthfulness of the ideas held by that denomination are confused at best and malicious at worst. With all it's troubles, the Catholic Church has *never* reversed it's teaching with regard to infallible truths. Maybe if we confine our discussion to *ideas/truths* and not *people* we will make a little more progress. Put simply, no more ad hominem attacks, ok? This is certainly a sin against charity. chris -- First comes the logo: C H E C K P O I N T T E C H N O L O G I E S / / \\ / / Then, the disclaimer: All expressed opinions are, indeed, opinions. \ / o Now for the witty part: I'm pink, therefore, I'm spam! \/