Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Jesus as a human Message-ID: Date: 29 Jul 90 18:06:31 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Grebyn Timesharing, Vienna, VA, USA Lines: 45 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu > About Jesus being human. I said in a post on 7/17 that Jesus isn't >human anymore. I still affirm that statement. What "Christian >doctrine" says He is still human? I fully recognize that, while on >earth, He was indeed human and God. But I do not think He still >posesses any characteristics which make Him human. He is not still >living on earth. He is not still experiencing the temptations He >experienced as a human. There are two points in time in which Jesus could have become "non-human," the Resurrection and the Ascension. After the Resurrection Jesus still appeared to have a human body. His disciples touched him and ate with him. Yes, he did some miraclulous things with his body after the Resurrection, but he also did many miraculous things with his body before the Resurrection, such as walking on water. So this certainly didn't make him less human, perhaps it made him more human. He spent less time in our midst after the Resurrection, but this also does not make him less human. So by all appearences (and how else can we guage his humaness) he was still human after the Resurrection. When Jesus Ascended into heaven, he rose into the sky and disapeared in a cloud of light (I don't have my Bible with me so I can't quote the exact words). And the angel said that Jesus would some day come back, just as we saw him leave. So it certainly seems to imply that Jesus would be back in human form. Exactly what form Jesus is in *now* (if you can ask that question of God) is hard to say. But the Catholic Church has always held that Jesus is *bodily* in heaven. This is certainly a glorified body, but glorified does not mean non-human -- in fact, it is this glorified bodily resurrected state that we all hope for. Furthermore, Jesus' physical body and blood are present on earth right now as we speak -- in the Tabernacle of every Catholic Church of the world. So Jesus even now, has a bodily existence, albeit in a sacramental form. Being human never prevented Jesus from being God, and being God certainly does not prevent him from being human -- even now. chris -- First comes the logo: C H E C K P O I N T T E C H N O L O G I E S / / \\ / / Then, the disclaimer: All expressed opinions are, indeed, opinions. \ / o Now for the witty part: I'm pink, therefore, I'm spam! \/