Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!unmvax!ariel.unm.edu!wayback.unm.edu!bill From: bill@wayback.unm.edu (william horne) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Observations on the State of NN theory Keywords: Genetic Neural Training Pepsi Message-ID: <1990Aug6.170953.979@ariel.unm.edu> Date: 6 Aug 90 17:09:53 GMT References: <1990Aug3.175023.28210@ariel.unm.edu> <12173@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Sender: usenet@ariel.unm.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 26 In article <12173@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> pluto@zaius.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowski) writes: (In response to my flame on the usefullness of GAs in NNs) > >Well, OK, if you insist! Actually, this is not much of a flame, but more of >a memo that GAs can help a great deal, with that one aspect of network >learning we all know and love: The Restart Method! Yes, you too have >used it, if you've done any network training at all. Now, what's wrong >with utilizing a bit of knowledge (or, a byte or two even) from past >restarts to guide the settings of parameters and initial weights for the >next one? GAs can do this. > This may be possible assuming that your knowledge from previous starting points could be used to direct your next guess at a starting point. How would this knowledge help except to not make a guess near your old starting point? As far as I know there is no type of known regularity concerning local minima which is particularly suitable towards GAs. As far a setting of parameters, I prefer something like delta-bar-delta which uses a local measure of the surface to guide setting of parameters. One interesting application of GAs seems to be trying to find the best topology, i.e. number of nodes, layers etc... I could see how you could combine the best of two networks maybe.... -Bill