Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mcsun!ukc!reading!minster!ken From: ken@minster.york.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: "real-time" over a lan: token ring vs ethernet vs ? Message-ID: <650139711.11949@minster.york.ac.uk> Date: 8 Aug 90 18:21:52 GMT References: <19300@well.sf.ca.us> <64442@yarra.oz.au> Reply-To: ken@SoftEng.UUCP (ken) Distribution: comp Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England Lines: 31 In article <64442@yarra.oz.au> chris@yarra.oz.au (Chris Jankowski) writes: >In article <19300@well.sf.ca.us> berger@well.sf.ca.us (Robert J. Berger) writes: >> >> We are looking to make a special purpose dedicated lan for controlling >> up to 128 devices. These devices will run a real time os such as PSOS or >> VxWorks. There will be up to 16 master devices made up of unix workstations >> running Unix System V.4. The workstations will be initiating most traffic. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> The main time critical response we need is to have a guaranteed worst case of >> the workstation sending a message to one or several of the slaves, where the >> message must get to the slave within 5 milliseconds. Most other traffic needs > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >My conclusion is that it looks as your 5ms may be insignificant >compared to variability of the time on workstations. > >Am I right or wrong or maybe I do not know something important? >Anybody cares to comment? Well pointed out. I still laugh at people selling `Real-Time' Unix, with claims like "We run real-time Unix, and you can use NFS, etc, etc". If you run NFS then you ain't running in real-time. If you want guaranteed response times don't use Unix, use a real-time operating system. Ken -- Ken Tindell UUCP: ..!mcsun!ukc!minster!ken Computer Science Dept. Internet: ken%minster.york.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk York University, Tel.: +44-904-433244 YO1 5DD UK