Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uunet!snorkelwacker!spdcc!ima!esegue!johnl From: johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: compressing a bit stream Keywords: data compression Message-ID: <1990Aug07.163940.9159@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us> Date: 7 Aug 90 16:39:40 GMT References: <26B70D8E.23784@ics.uci.edu> <573@westmark.UU.NET> <592@wattres.UUCP> <593@westmark.UU.NET> Reply-To: johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine) Distribution: usa Organization: Segue Software, Cambridge MA Lines: 29 In article <593@westmark.UU.NET> dave@westmark.UU.NET (Dave Levenson) writes: >Perhaps all nodes who run netnews should immediately discontinue the >use of compressed news transfers until this matter is resolved? Only if you want to triple your phone bill. A few points: -- AT&T distributes compress with recent versions of unix, and they have patent cross-licenses with Unisys. This means that in all likelihood anyone who uses compress on a unix system has the legal right to use the patent, independent of whether it applies to compress or not. -- Since the patent has never been litigated, there is considerable doubt whether the patent is valid, and if so, whether it applies to software-only patents. (The legal basis for software-only patents is quite fuzzy.) -- Discontinuing your use of compress the moment you hear about the patent is, in the eyes of a court, a virtual admission that you think you're infringing it, and only makes your situation worse in the unlikely event that someone took you to court. Personally, I don't think that I am infringing anything and see no reason to change what I'm doing. -- Pragmatically speaking, there is no way that anyone can identify every site that uses compress, arc, or any of the other programs that use LZW compression. There's too many, and there's no audit trail. -- John R. Levine, Segue Software, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 864 9650 johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us, {ima|lotus|spdcc}!esegue!johnl Marlon Brando and Doris Day were born on the same day.