Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!umich!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: ben@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Benjamin Ellsworth) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: 800 ANI - Is the Whole Number Neccessary? Message-ID: <10638@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 8 Aug 90 20:52:52 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 35 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 553, Message 2 of 11 > [Moderator's Note: It is not an invasion of your privacy when you ask > me to pay for your telephone call and I ask for the number of the > telephone. By your thinking, the information provided to the person > paying the bill for a collect call would also be an 'invasion of > privacy' since that person gets your number. As long as I am paying, I > want the details of what I am paying for. ... PT] Hmmm... it seems to me that ANY time someone calls me that person is making use of a service that I pay for. I pay for the ability to receive calls at my home. If you call me, you are partially using my money. Why can't I get "the details of what I am paying for?" Trying to draw a distinction between facilities charges and connect- time charges seems spurious. It seems very clear to me that if CID is illegal in PA that calling number provision for collect calls, and 800 service providers should also be ruled illegal. I also think that we need to be careful in our use of the term "invasion of privacy." It appears to be valid to say that any time you willingly surrender information there has been no "invasion." Hence, one might conclude that our moderator's assertion is correct. However, by so doing we must agree that general CID also not an invasion of privacy -- if you choose to take advantage of the site facility that I pay for and maintain you must surrender your identity. "I want the details of what I am paying for." Would our Moderator or others agree? Benjamin Ellsworth ben@cv.hp.com All possibly relevant disclaimers apply. [Moderator's Note: Well, I have always felt if someone wanted to call me they had to surrender some of their privacy in the process. PT]