Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!uunet!willett!ForthNet From: ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Experimental Ideas Message-ID: <1460.UUL1.3#5129@willett.UUCP> Date: 6 Aug 90 03:28:15 GMT Organization: String, Scotch tape, and Paperclips. (in Pgh, PA) Lines: 50 Date: 08-01-90 (08:13) Number: 3596 (Echo) To: FRANK SERGEANT Refer#: 3582 From: ZAFAR ESSAK Read: NO Subj: EXPERIMENTAL IDEAS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Actually this message is not directed at you specifically but just an entry point to this interesting ongoing discussion. For starters, your interest in the Allen Test Products "big thing-a-ma-jig" ... is this approach a thing of the past with many newer cars having computer chips on board responsible for a number of operating characteristics? Is it possible to hook your PC to the car's computer and interogate it on its performance, maybe even tweek it a little, interactively even, without worrying about a 50,000 volt spike. What kind of port is it anyway? Serial or parallel? Robert Berkey's comments: " I still find the block and buffer structure of polyFORTH combined with it's round-robin multi-tasking environment to be somewhat amazing. With the right programming touch, it's simply not necessary to do record and file locking. I've heard database designers agonize over the enormous task of permitting large files to span disk devices. With polyFORTH that capability comes with the design, and therefore already bug free, speed optimized, etc." Now if there was a Stream I/O module on top of this efficient Block system it might attract even more interest. Letting the Stream Layer converse with the block layer to manage all the required house-keeping and giving the User the ability to view the data as multiple streams as required by their application, while still minimizing operating system calls that slow things down. As for line editors and block editors, no thanks! My thoughts never come out as chunks of fixed size, requiring physical stamina to insert a thought where it belongs, beside a related thought, with an aside if I'm in the mood. And when I need to zoom through a document the page up and down keys work fine where searching isn't appropriate. And an added bonus is all that saved space on disk so I can write more code and still do it on a portable with a disk that always too small. Zafar Essak. BC-Forth Board, Vancouver. --- * Via Qwikmail 2.01 NET/Mail : British Columbia Forth Board - Burnaby BC - (604)434-5886 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu