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From: ergo@netcom.UUCP (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Smalltalk V/286 and Windows 3.0
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Date: 7 Aug 90 21:02:55 GMT
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In <90218.105603MUHRTH@DB0TUI11.BITNET> MUHRTH@tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Muhr) writes:

>Beside the problems of dictating new standards to memory management via
>the himem.sys driver supplied with Windows 3.0 by MS, which has the
>effect, that after return from a "well-behaving" program like Windows 3.0,
>older programs cannot use extended memory anymore, are there any experiences
>of how to start ST V/286 from within Windows in standard/386-mode AND retur-
>ning to Windows by task-switching? Even better: Did anybody manage to run
>ST in a Windows-window? If nothing works: Will there be a DigiTalk-ST
>running under Windows 3.0 ?

I've never used Windows, and I'm not even much of a Smalltalker, but I
suggest you forget about ST V/286 and Windows, at least for now.
In my experience, you don't want *anything* running with ST V/286.
It seems to hang if I run any interactive TSRs at the same time.  I'm
not sure if it'll get along with any extended memory managers, but
since it manages extended memory itself, that's moot.

My worst experience in this department:  I have a quite well-behaved
screen blanker that I'm sure cannot (at least by itself) destroy a
Hercules monitor.  But when I made the mistake of running it with with
ST V/286, it waited the requisite 10 minutes and blanked my screen
*forever*.  I suppose ST V/286 must interact with the video
constantly, and two entities trying to reprogram a Hercules card at
the same time is guaranteed to result in tragedy!

I *always* reboot before running Smalltalk V/286, and I suggest you do
the same!
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