Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!uhccux!virtue!ccc_ldo From: ccc_ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: missing fundamentals Message-ID: <1172.26bf0526@waikato.ac.nz> Date: 7 Aug 90 06:15:02 GMT References: <10133@accuvax.nwu.edu> Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Lines: 22 I have personally experienced an even more extreme case of the "missing fundamentals" effect. I was playing around with a Yamaha electronic organ one day, trying different mixes of 8', 4' and 2-2/3' flute sounds. It got to the point where I'd turned off the 8' (fundamental) completely, and I was still hearing the tune playing at the same pitch! Next I turned off the 4' as well (leaving just the 2-2/3') and I could still hear the tune playing at its original pitch. As far as my ear was concerned, it was just an extreme version of the timbre you get with a mix of 8' and 2-2/3'. I didn't try 1-3/5', but I suspect that with a bit of effort, I could have done it. I think things would get harder as the harmonic ratios involve higher and higher prime factors. I guess what this means is that, if you're in the right frame of mind, you can hear almost anything... Lawrence D'Oliveiro fone: +64-71-562-889 Computer Services Dept fax: +64-71-384-066 University of Waikato electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz Hamilton, New Zealand 37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00