Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!inesc!unl!unl!jpc From: jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: X windows under MINIX Message-ID: Date: 6 Aug 90 15:06:08 GMT References: Sender: news@fctunl.rccn.pt (USENET News System) Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa -- Lisbon, Portugal Lines: 70 In-Reply-To: nicholas@wacsvax.uwa.oz's message of 31 Jul 90 03:36:54 GMT (1) - I doubt (2) Quoting from my command line: -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 203832 May 17 15:21 libX11.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 4462 Jan 26 1990 libXau.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 163392 May 17 15:21 libXaw.a -rw-rw-r-- 1 root system 112478 Feb 5 1990 libXcu.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 11288 Jan 26 1990 libXdmcp.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 20866 Jan 26 1990 libXext.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 23370 Jan 26 1990 libXinput.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 52104 Jan 30 1990 libXmu.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 202614 May 17 15:21 libXt.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root sources 4790 Jan 26 1990 liboldX.a Adds to 821 Kb even the tyniest X aplication uses libX11, almost all use libX11+libXt and the vast majority uses libX11+libXt+libXaw. (568Kb) So: Hip: ST Needs: shared libs (or each app will bring it's own copy of the library) Hip: PC 8086 (hahahahahahaaa) Hip: PC 80286 Protected mode (I don't think so (64Kb segments)) Needs: A (very) optimizing (optimist) compiler. A real loader. The ability to break a library into several segments Shared Memory Hip: PC 80386 32 Bit Mode Needs: Shared Memory (Or a big & fast swap) They all need TCP (or blood, sweat and tears over the X listings) SPARCStation VAXStation Shared libs Yes No X11 binaries 3.5 Mb 20 Mb Server 0.7 Kb 1 Mb Also the X fellows recommend 50-80Mb free before untarring the sources to compile. Arround here the X tree uses 83Mb The VAX2000 here are configured with a 25Mb swap space, we could live with less but less than 10Mb is very short (maybe too short) Beter have VGA (a bit more pixels, a more usable palette, X comes with server code for VGA) Three button mouse. Not a good scenario. -- Jose Pedro T. Pina Coelho | BITNET/Internet: jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt Rua Jau N 1, 2 Dto | UUCP: jpc@unl.uucp 1300 Lisboa, PORTUGAL | ARPA: jpc%hara.fctunl.rccn.pt@mitvma.mit.edu Home phone: (+351) (1) 640767 - If all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister ?