Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!tut!funic!santra!news From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Selling of free software Message-ID: <1990Aug8.173146.1206@santra.uucp> Date: 8 Aug 90 17:31:46 GMT References: <5414@castle.ed.ac.uk> <26259@usc.edu> <26149@nigel.udel.EDU> <6--4A8C@xds13.ferranti.com> Sender: news@santra.uucp (Cnews - USENET news system) Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 46 In-Reply-To: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) In article <6--4A8C@xds13.ferranti.com>, peter@ficc (Peter da Silva) writes: >I wrote a soft shareware program for the Amiga called "browser". After >a while, I recieved mail from someone in Germany to the effect that someone >was selling a disk that contained several such programs for more than the >$5 that Fred Fish charges for his Amiga PD collection, with the implication >that I should be horrified at his abuse of my work. > >I'm afraid that I disappointed this worthy gentleman, because I really >didn't care. So long as the package stayed together so my begging letter >was included, I didn't care if they required a 5 year indenture to get my >code. I don't mind that situation either; what I _do_ mind if I post / publish some code to the public domain, then someone else comes and (perhaps improving the code somewhat, perhaps deleting my name, perhaps omiting documentation and source, perhaps doing something else) starts selling the code so that the buyer of that program isn't allowed to redistribute. I think Minix is a very good service to the community, but I see some of the above scene happening with Minix (or perhaps it's my misunderstanding). I think there's a lot of user-contribued stuff distributed with Minix. The authors have allowed free use of that stuff, fine. But I suppose all the software in Minix comes with Prentice-Hall copyright, so you aren't allowed to redistribute that free stuff, either, if you got it with Minix, right ? Please tell me I'm wrong. That's what I think is a very good aspect of the GNU copyright. It guarantees all the users / redistributers the right to get _everything_ of the original work easily and takes away the possibility of a third party taking this freedom away. For these reasons, if I'll make some sizable contributions to Minix (or any other effort-taking software development for that matter), I'll probably put them under the GNU copyright. This may mean that Prentice-Hall won't put them in the official distribution, but the improvements (if they're not too much dependent on Minix) are available for use by free software developers easily, ie. someone can port them to GNU OS or something else to be freely distributable. If I just give them to the public domain, it easily happens that someone takes the software and restricts it's redistribution (like happens currently with X, TeX, Scribe (if I remember right), Ingres, Berkeley version of Unix etc.) //Jyrki