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From: CLAUSS1@applelink.apple.com (Clauss, Chris)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: phase 2 with CAP/KIP
Message-ID: <2687293@AppleLink.Apple.COM>
Date: 7 Aug 90 14:29:00 GMT
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Hi Folks,
 
    WARNING: I as an Apple employee have biases!
 
> Am I wrong to choose Appletalk Phase 2 for this network?  I'm not sure if
> this is wise, considering the UofC already has a large mac network out here.
> (I believe its still Phase 1 appletalk.)
 
    It is my belief that any new networks should be AppleTalk phase 2 (and
existing networks should be moved to Phase 2 ASAP).  Phase 2 has many major
improvements over Phase 1.  Most routers can act as Phase 1 to Phase 2
"transition routers" allowing Phase 1 nodes and Phase 2 nodes to completely
interoperate on an AppleTalk internet.  Novell has now gone Phase 2 with
NetWare completeing the move of major vendors from Phase 1 to Phase 2.
 
> Will I have problems getting CAP and KIP to work... ?
 
    KIP and CAP are still AppleTalk Phase 1!  This is not a problem if we have
some router (FastPath, GatorBox, AppleTalk InterNet Router, etc.) that is
acting as a Phase 1 to Phase 2 "transition router".  But it seems to me that
one of the weakest parts of the KIP and CAP setup is that it is still Phase 1.
I hope that one of you CAP geniuses will be able to make CAP into a Phase 2
product.  Apple will now sell the source for a UNIX-based, polished CAP-like
package for $40,000 + $500/yr but that is a bit much!  What we need is a
version of CAP which is ready for the 90's.  Anybody trying to do this???
 
    Take care,
    Chris Clauss
    Apple Computer, Inc.
    Clauss1@AppleLink.Apple.Com
 
    <<< I speak for Chris Clauss, NOT Apple Computer, Inc. >>>