Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!sics.se!bula!bjornk From: bjornk@bula.se (Bjorn Knutsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: NoiseTracker V2.0 out! Message-ID: <10180@bula.se> Date: 11 Aug 90 17:06:52 GMT References: <10129@bula.se> Sender: rnews@bula.se Reply-To: Bjorn Knutsson Distribution: comp Organization: Bjorn's Amiga, Sweden Lines: 55 In article hclausen@adspdk.CBMNET (Henrik Clausen) writes: >>In article <10129@bula.se> bjornk@bula.se (Bjorn Knutsson) writes: >>[Stuff about sending out 20 copies of NoiseTracker deleted] > >>Well, I can agree that you may not be sure that this is the case, but >>you HAVE been told, and you have obviously not stopped distributing >>copies yet. Now, that makes you a pirate in my book. > > Pirates are people that copy illegal programs systematically and in >large quantities. Well, I'd consider 20 copies a large quantity... > Distributing a nice program that seems to be PD, but may or not be, >is certainly not piracy. He's a nice guy, it seems, perhaps a bit naive :-) Well, I wouldn't complain so loud if he had stopped distribution the moment he got an indication that the program wasn't freely distributable. >>What I'd like to know is: If I steal Marco's "ATalk III", hack it up a >>little and call it "MasterATalk", does this make it OK for me to >>distribute for free? Is that OK with you Marco? (Hey! You know I >>wouldn't pull a stunt like that, put that shotgun away... :-) > > Comparing the NT / ST heritage to ATalk III is WAY out of porpotions. >ATalk is way above ST with respect to completeness, stability, compatibility, >support - and size! Yes, but that does not make a difference in my book. A program can't be "slightly copyrighted" or "almost free". It's either freely distributable (subject to terms) or not. This is a "not"-case. > I'm not advocating reverse engineering, hacking, Asm or piracy. Just >attempting to speak words of common sense. Most people cheat in little >ways in the dark. Software, taxes, lying, politics, etc. Well now, if I were to, for example, steal a couple of pencils from the office hardly anybody, not even my boss, would care much. However, if I announced on the net that anyone who wanted to, could get free pencils from me, I guess that would upset people. > Exclaimer: I *hate* heated discussions. Flames by mail, please. No flame, just an explaination. >-- >| Henrik Clausen, Graffiti Data (Fido: 2:230/22.33) | >| ...{pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!adspdk!hclausen | >\__"Do not accept the heart that is the slave to reason" - Qawwali trad__/ --- Bjorn Knutsson / USENET: bjornk@bula.se or sunic!sics!bula!bjornk Stangholmsbacken 44 / Phone : +46-8-710 7223 S-127 40 SKARHOLMEN / "Oh dear, I think you'll find reality's on the S W E D E N / blink again." -- Marvin The Paranoid Android