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From: S36666WB@ETSUACAD.BITNET (Brian Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re:  NoiseTracker V2.0 out!
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Date: 12 Aug 90 01:17:08 GMT
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On 11 Aug 90 21:16:22 GMT you said:
>In article <9008111912.AA01990@jade.berkeley.edu> S36666WB@ETSUACAD.BITNET
>(Brian Wright) writes:
>>     I have a few comments & questions about Noistracker and it's so-called
>>commercial release.  First,  since Noisetracker was based on Soundtracker
>[...]
>>If this is the case how can a HACKED version of an original release become
>>commercial?  First the original author must agree to this.

>It can't.  ALL the 'hacked' copies are an infringment of the rights of the
>original author.

It can't what?  Be released as a commercial product?   If NT 2.0 is a BETA
of a commercial release then who is releasing it?  Is the original author of
The Ultimate Soundtracker releasing it?  If not then it can't be released
as commercial anything to anybody according to what you have just said.
That's to bad too.  From what I have seen of Soundtracker and NoiseTracker
they would make excellent products.

I don't condone what the hackers did but the results of their efforts (no
matter how immoral) are here.  It would be nice to see the original author of
The Ultimate Soundtracker allow these programs at least the right to survive
in PD form (or even shareware with donations given to the original author).

>Whatever these 'authors' did was illegal, and as far as rights they have
>NOTHING.  Modifying original code does NOT give ANY rights to the one
>making the modifications. This is known as "modification of pre-existing
>material", and all rights on the modifications are maintained by the
>original author.  In fact, all these thieves (I like that better than pirates
>because that IS what they are) are fully liable for copyright infringement.
>
>-- Marco
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As you have pointed out the Hacker/Code Modifiers (Thieves as you call them)
would then not get any compensation for the PD or shareware programs.  Perhaps
even to remove the names of the Hackers off the programs before placing them
into PD or shareware.  Perhaps we should support MED 2.0 instead.  That
piece of software has NO controversy associated with it and has the source code
included.  It's also on a Fred Fish disk.  It supports MIDI as well.

By the way, will there be ANY Soundtracker/MED type programs that WILL work on
the 3000?  Commercial, PD or Shareware?  Thanks in advance....

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