Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!ukc!inmos!brac!davidb From: davidb@brac.inmos.co.uk (David Boreham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: PCNFS on Apollos Message-ID: <9317@ganymede.inmos.co.uk> Date: 7 Aug 90 14:25:56 GMT References: <9008021356.AA05757@mwunix.mitre.org> <1990Aug2.230727.17560@terminator.cc.umich.edu> Sender: news@inmos.co.uk Reply-To: davidb@inmos.co.uk (David Boreham) Organization: none Lines: 59 In article <1990Aug2.230727.17560@terminator.cc.umich.edu> rees@citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees) writes: >In article <9008021356.AA05757@mwunix.mitre.org>, okay@TAFS.MITRE.ORG >("Okay, S J") writes: > In <9008011858.AA27274@humu.nosc.mil> kent@humu.nosc.mil (Kent K. >Kuriyama) writes > >I have heard that the NFS implementation from HP/Apollo does not > >support PC-NFS. If this is true has anyone done the port of > >PC-NFSD? > > ... > > Why can't HP just break down and play with others!?!?!? > >They did. Apollo has NFS (although I've heard the server side doesn't work >too well). Does PC-NFS use a different protocol from regular NFS? I >thought all NFS implementations were supposed to play together? Why don't >the PC-NFS folks just break down and play with the others? OK, to try and clear this one up: NFS and PCNFS are not the same thing. To be more specific, there is a PRODUCT, sold by SUN, called PC-NFS. This gives you the ability to do remote file access on a UNIX system from a PC as well as telnet, ftp and so on. In order to function, this product needs to perform USER AUTHENTICATION. It does this by communicating (using RPC) with a server running on a UNIX box, called ``pcnsfd'' (or rpc.pcnfsd). As well as doing the authentication, the pcnfsd server provides remote printing services. Apollo support NFS, and therby support all the functions provided by PC-NFS, EXCEPT user authentication. This is not usually a problem since most sites would have at least one non-apollo machine running yellow pages and the pcnfsd anyway. We run our network in this way and provided you keep the password databases reasonably unified, there are no problems. The only time you need pcnfsd running on an Apollo is where you either have no SUNs or other BSD-type boxes on the network or where you keep separate UID domains (not a very good idea). So, there are two things---PC-NFS which is a bunch of disks and a manual, and pcnfsd which is a daemon running on a host and provides authentication and printing services to users of PC-NFS. David Boreham, INMOS Limited | mail(uk): davidb@inmos.co.uk or ukc!inmos!davidb Bristol, England | (us): uunet!inmos.com!davidb +44 454 616616 ex 547 | Internet: davidb@inmos.com