Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!apple!mattd From: mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: cd-rom Message-ID: <43785@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 9 Aug 90 04:00:09 GMT References: <1990Aug9.005540.5558@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> Distribution: comp.sys.apple2 Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 61 In article <1990Aug9.005540.5558@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Bob Sherman) writes: >In chin@ankh.ankh.ftl.fl.us (Albert Chin) writes: > >I think if enough developers send a complaint to DTS that these cd-roms >are useless to the GS developer community they will get the hint and make >the stuff available to us on a media that we can use. "Dear DTS: Please stop sending me several hundred megabytes of useful information per quarter. I absolutely positively don't want to buy a CD-ROM drive, even as a very useful development tool, and getting the information makes me think every now and then that I might be mistaken, which of course can't be the case." OK, so maybe this is too reactionary, but not much. CD-ROM is an effective, efficient and practical method to send tons of information to the developer community. It's not "CD-ROM vs. Floppy" - if it wasn't on the CD-ROM, the cost of distributing it via floppy would make it not free. I personally believe that the contents of the Developer CD would cost the average developer around $300 if it wasn't on the CD. The Developer CD is like sending a hard disk full of great stuff to each developer every quarter. We have no intention of stopping that or of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to turn it into a few hundred floppies. We want the cost of this stuff to be *lower*, remember? That's why every Apple Partner gets to buy one CD-ROM drive at a very low price. >After all, the >intended purpose of the programs they release is to get them used, and if >all we can use the cd-rom for is a small frisbee, then the software is not >getting out for use. So we should always release everything on 5.25" disks for the people who don't have the 3.5" disks? After all, those people aren't getting the information either... >They even sent a cd rom to Apple ][ users groups >this month, but they require a mac to access them. I have spoken with >5 or 6 users group presidents about the cd-roms, and they all without >exception said they were completely useless to their groups, and they >all have Apple II machines, and they couple of members that did also have >a mac certainly did not have the cd-rom drive.. > I don't know anything about this, but I imagine that the User Group Connection is open to suggestion about the presence and content of ProDOS partitions. >In fact my wife has found a wonderful use for the cd-rom disks.. They work >very well to scrape up dried bird droppings... (sure beats throwing them >away, right???) > >-- > bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu | bsherman@pro-exchange | MCI MAIL:BSHERMAN I dunno. You should see what I do with the printouts of some newsgroup messages. -- ============================================================================ Matt Deatherage, Apple Computer, Inc. | "The opinions represented here are Developer Technical Support, Apple II | not necessarily those of Apple Group. Personal mail only, please. | Computer, Inc. Remember that." ============================================================================