Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hplsla!andyc From: andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Need help with ICD Utils Message-ID: <5440128@hplsla.HP.COM> Date: 8 Aug 90 21:25:03 GMT References: <19704@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA Lines: 35 Re: ICDUTILS on Terminator Given the preamble to the documentation for the programs available on Terminator (posted by Howard Chu), I agree that the programs are legally available on Terminator. My apologies to the original poster and to the Terminator folks; I was not aware that ICD's earlier policies were more lenient than their present policies. To address the question posed by Mr. Tauberg: > Why are you getting so hot under the collar about this software > that is clearly available to ICD owners? A lot to say about nothing. The current versions of the ICD programs come with documentation that clearly states how they may be distributed, and ICD has made it clear on GEnie that they are serious about it. As a case in point, there was a fellow that asked permission to give a copy of the latest utilities to a pal who had an ICD host adapter. ICD flatly refused, saying his friend had to download them from GEnie or ICD's BBS, or else mail-order and upgrade. One can certainly question what is admittedly a strange distribution/upgrade policy, but one can't question ICD's right to set that policy. And I don't think a BBS or file server could afford to engage in practices contrary to ICD's policy, in light of some of the serious piracy incidents that have recently come to light involving software written for the ST. So, "hot under the collar" perhaps, but please direct your "alot to say about nothing" comment elsewhere. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Andy Cassino % % Hewlett-Packard - Lake Stevens Instrument Division % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%