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Date: 7 Aug 90 16:12:04 GMT
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In article <5598@uwm.edu>, jgreco@archimedes.math.uwm.edu (Joe Greco) writes:
> In comp.sys.cbm article <25021.26ac30bf@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, petrino@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
> :> The question, if I recall, was if we felt it was responsible for the
> :> "decline" of the 64.
> :Actually no, at least not in whole. The question was also asking
> :whether we felt piracy was wrong, plain & simple. Your reply was 
> :"yes" piracy is plainly & simply wrong, my reply was "no" IMHO 
> :piracy, although illegal, is okay. 
> 
> Then why is it illegal in the first place?  It would seem to me that the law
> is basically the common will of the people - it would make no sense to have
> a law that the people did not want.

 Not all laws make sense, and not all laws make sense to all people.
 Laws, in THEORY stem from the common will of the people. In practice,
 though, they stem from the will of a select group of people.   

> :I do sympathize with your plight. But, I don't feel the Software
> :industry has been crippled by pirates, and, since no machine/system 
> :is completely secure, I haven't seen many professional software creators
> :giving up the biz' because there are too many pirates out there.
> :This is not to be misconstrued as a justification/rationalization
> :for software piracy! Illegal is illegal.
> 
> You sound wishy-washy on this point...?

 Not at all, Piracy is illegal. But, you have "Joes Code" & I have
"Jacks Code". Jacks code says piracy is ok, illegal <> don't do. Just
don't cry if you get caught. (like with speeding/illegal parking etc.)

> :BTW...I'm a programmer also, but for slightly bigger machines :)     
> 
> Define slightly bigger.  A VAX-8650 running VMS?
> 
> Sorry, I just had to.  ;-)

 Yes, very soon to be a VAX 9000. (controllers already in place,
 actual unit will be here in less than 2 weeks)  
 We also have an Amdahl 5890-300e running VM/XA 2.0, MVS/XA 2.2.3,& 
 MVS/SP 1.3.5. and an IBM 3081 KX3 running VM/XA 2.0 & VM/SP5.
 [Though I don't claim them as my own :)]

 Do you have an 8650 there? What version of VMS are they running? 

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