Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!merk!alliant!linus!think!ephraim From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Classic MacII ROM incompatibilities? Message-ID: <41402@think.Think.COM> Date: 10 Aug 90 14:35:22 GMT References: <1337@s5.Morgan.COM> Sender: news@Think.COM Reply-To: ephraim@leander.think.com.UUCP (Ephraim Vishniac) Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA Lines: 50 In article <1337@s5.Morgan.COM> jordan@Morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes: >Anyway, someone from Radius >mentioned that on the old MacII ROMs, there was an incompatibility with >large monitors (specifically, he said, NuBus cards that address more >than 1 Mb of memory). I've called *every* Apple Authorized Dealer in >Manhattan, and they *all* are idiots! No one even knows what a ROM is?!?. Here's the answer, straight from the Apple's mouth: From: kateley@Apple.COM (Jim Kateley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Summary: PMMUs vs Mac IIs -- which ones don't work Date: 10 Feb 90 21:11:16 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Metro Plaza, San Jose CA Lines: 33 In article <3092@pur-phy> sho@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu.UUCP (Sho Kuwamoto) writes: >You machine will be affected if you have Rev. A ROMs. They moved >to Rev. B ROMs sometime around February 1988. Actually, there are two seperate repair extenstion programs for the Macintosh II. The first, announced in Feburary of 1988, addresses a ROM glitch where NuBus cards with more than 1MB of address space cannot be accessed. This is the "Rev A to Rev B" program. Your dealer can see page 8.4.13 of their service programs binder for details. The other, announced in August of 1989, is for the HMMU/PMMU socket situation where the socket for the PMMU on some units does not have all the necessary pins for a PMMU to function (although it does have enough pins for the HMMU). Your dealer can see page 8.4.14 of their service programs binder for details. In the first case, you would have a problem if you had a NuBus card that required more than 1MB of address space. In the second case, your MacII would not work if you installed a PMMU. Both situations require a main logic board swap, which is at no cost to you. -- Jim Kateley UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!kateley S,P,HnS! DOMAIN: kateley@apple.COM Applelink: kateley1 Disclaimer: What I say, think, or smell does not reflect any policy or stray thought by Apple Computer, Inc. -- Ephraim Vishniac ephraim@think.com ThinkingCorp@applelink.apple.com Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142 One of the flaws in the anarchic bopper society was the ease with which such crazed rumors could spread.