Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!rex!samsung!emory!mephisto!mcnc!uvaarpa!murdoch!news From: mil@mendel.acc.Virginia.EDU (Maria I. Lasaga) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: The programming CULT (WOW!) Message-ID: <1990Aug9.040707.15339@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: 9 Aug 90 04:07:07 GMT Sender: news@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Distribution: usa Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 24 The carpenter/architect analogy doesn't work very well, for many reasons already given. Here's another: I don't think many architects could actually build a house they have designed if a carpenter weren't available. The same is not true of students with degrees in CS. They can still program, no?! Would a better analogy be an untrained artist versus one taught by an established academy of the arts? I find this discussion about the usefulness of a graduate degree very interesting. Out of curiousity, what is the average starting salary of a programmer with a CS degree these days? What about that of a programmer without a degree? Do companies make a distinction? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maria Lasaga Dept. of Psychology Gilmer Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, Va 22901 mil@virginia.bitnet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------