Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!ucla-cs!ucla-seas!JPRICE@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu From: jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex Subject: Re: TeXtures question Message-ID: <0093AF03.C4021560@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu> Date: 9 Aug 90 20:27:08 GMT References: <0093AE22.A6D58A80@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu> <27878@netnews.upenn.edu> <0093AE45.4DA805A0@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu>,<27892@netnews,<8068@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Sender: news@SEAS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group Lines: 59 In article <8068@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>, dhosek@sif.claremont.edu (Hosek, Donald A.) writes: >In article <0093AE7D.ADDF3D20@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu>, jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes... >> I have run TeXtures on a Mac here at school, with a Deskwriter, and >>the output is indeed very good for a bitmap font. However, the Deskwriter >>is capable of much better. Using the Deskwriter fonts, (which, I believe, >>are outline fonts), the quality is noticeably better. So, I *really* want >>to do it this way, if I can. > >Actually, if all goes well, the best quality is given by bitmap >fonts. ... >All of this, however depends on a couple of things: >(1) that the font is available AT THE SIZE REQUESTED. The only problem with this is, suppose you need something in a font that isn't available? I may get the exact numbers wrong, but the fonts that come with TeXtures are 10, 12, 14, 18, and 24 pt. 14pt may be missing; I'm too far away from our Mac to go look it up. However, when you load fonts for TeX, the common sizes are 10 pt scaled \magstep1-\magstep5, or 10, 12, 14, 17, 21, and 25pt. So, some rescaling of fonts is necessary. This is where the bad quality comes in, as Don rightly points out. >(2) The font is tuned to the printer technology. This is a point I hadn't considered. Since I know nothing about it, though, I'll take your word for it. >(3) the fact that the pixel spacing of a letter is not >necessarily the TFM width rounded to pixels. This is something I've seen in practice. Spacing between letters and words is very different on TeX output from our Mac and that from our VAX. All the layout appears to be the same - in other words, a given page from one implementation will have the same content as that from the other implementation - but the spacing on the pages is different. Earlier today, by the way, I tried assigning one of the outline fonts to TeXtures. The command I used was something like \font\twelverm = Times at 12pt It worked beautifully. The output was as good as I would normally have expected from the Deskwriter. The layout, however, was different, which I attribute to differences between the Mac's Times font and cmr10 scaled\magstep1 (there's a reason for using this instead of cmr12, but I forget what it is...) There appear, however, to be incompatibilities between TeXtures and "normal" Mac fonts. I'm still working on it, and I'll let y'all know if I come up with anything brilliant. Or, even if anyone else *tells* me something brilliant... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Price | Internet: jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu 5-145 Knudsen Hall | BITNET: price@uclaph UCLA Dept. of Physics | DECnet: uclapp::jprice Los Angeles, CA 90024-1547 | YellNet: 213-825-2259 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where there is no solution, there is no problem.