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From: krotz@motcid.UUCP (Scott A. Krotz)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Running non-windows applications in windows 3.0
Summary: Can't use all my memory to run non-windows apps
Keywords: non-windows, dos, Insufficient memory
Message-ID: <4319@buff3.UUCP>
Date: 6 Aug 90 20:13:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola Inc. - Cellular Infrastructure Div., Arlington Heights, IL 60004
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  I am having problems running non-windows applications using
the 386 enhanced mode of windows 3.0, and it is beginning to
drive me nuts.  I have a 386SX with 2 meg of ram, AMI Bios, and
am running with virtual memory off.  When I call up a dos shell
with the dos icon, I have about 800k of memory left.  However,
I cant call up another dos window, it tells me I have
"insufficient memory to start application."  I also tried creating
my own dos window, one that uses about 200k of memory.  When
I use that PIF, I can call up about two or three of these "small"
dos windows, but after that I can't call up any more, even though
windows says I have 800k free -- same "Insufficient memory to
start application" error.  What gives?  I am using the program
manager "About program manager" option to give me how much memory
is left... is this the true amount of memory left? Why can't I
start up a dos window that should only take up 200k when I have
800k free?  I have the PIF set to be text mode, and not to retain
video memory.  What are the limitations on how many non-windows
applications windows can run?  The manual is very vague and
non-technical it seems about this information.  Please forgive
my ignorance, as I am new to windows.

   Thanks in advance,
   Scott Krotz

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