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From: rpA-Inc@cup.portal.com (RP and Ainc)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Banyan Dont Know Windows
Message-ID: <32505@cup.portal.com>
Date: 6 Aug 90 20:37:13 GMT
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[ Was this a bitching session or were you actually asking for information? ]

You neglected to mention your system configuration or software version
numbers in your posting, but here's a scenario that works.

DOS 3.3 or 4.01 on a 386 with 2 MB memory, VGA+ and Win3.
From within Win3, we successfully run Banyan 4.0 Mail from
one window and PC/TCP (ftp, rlogin, telnet) etc... from another
window. No problems. The shared Banyan drives show up too.
The PC/TCP version is the one that shares Banyan drivers. 

Whereas QEMM was used before with Win/386 v2.1 as a replacement
for HIMEM.SYS, it does not work with Win3 so it has been scrapped.
Instead, applications that need EMS are run from Win3 (as full-screen
apps if necessary). Works fine but with some memory loss that was
expected. People are getting extra memory as it becomes necessary.

Quarterdeck's new QEMM is supposed to work with Win3 and we'll look
at it, but until then, this works fine. We do not load any TSR's
before loading windows. A minor inconvenience, except that the
AUTOEXEC file is written such that it first starts Win3, then falls
out to normal TSR loading and further initialization. So people
who absolutely want to go back to old DOS can do it by exiting Win3. 
Also, nobody has complained about popping back into Win3 even after 
dropping to DOS. Except that it's understood that not as much memory 
would be available if they did that... Maybe people use TSR's more
conservatively than others, but Commando and CED are used for DOS-line
editing. People have been warned about TSR's that change graphics
modes. Most replicate Win3 applications (notepad, alarm clock, etc...)
anyway. The general consensus is that even though some convenience
measures no longer work, the advantages are still many (sort of like
trading in a security blanket for a down comforter (:-)

P.S. Repeat the above scenario approx. 4000 times to get the idea
of the scale here. This is not a fluke.

Hope this helps.

Ramin Firoozye
rp&A Inc.
San Francisco, CA.