Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!erik.UUCP!randy From: randy@erik.UUCP (Randy Brown) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif Subject: Re: switching lists Message-ID: <9008101654.AA26323@uunet.uu.net> Date: 10 Aug 90 16:29:40 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: inet Organization: The Internet Lines: 47 >From uunet!alphalpha.com!motif-request Fri Aug 10 01:00:06 1990 Received: by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA14841; Fri, 10 Aug 90 00:42:53 -0400 Received: by alphalpha.com ( 5.52 (84)/test) id AA02659; Wed, 8 Aug 90 02:52:38 EDT Received: by alphalpha.com ( 5.52 (84)/test) id AA02656; Wed, 8 Aug 90 02:52:35 EDT Received: by alphalpha.com ( 5.52 (84)/test) id AA01326; Wed, 8 Aug 90 02:26:05 EDT Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by BU.EDU (1.98) Tue, 7 Aug 90 20:25:24 EDT Received: from bcm.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.07) with UUCP id AA09500; Tue, 7 Aug 90 20:01:39 EDT Message-Id: <9008080001.AA09500@rutgers.edu> Received: from nuchat by bcm.uucp id aa28564; 7 Aug 90 19:27 EDT From: uunet!moray.sccsi.com!texhrc!uucpnews Date: Tue, 7 Aug 90 18:02:33 GMT Apparently-To: comp-windows-x-motif Status: RO >From nuchat!texhrc!uucpnews Received: from moray.UUCP by shell.com SHELL-X1.3 id AA11566; Tue, 7 Aug 90 17:49:10 -0500 Received: by moray.sccsi.com (smail2.5) id AA20358; 7 Aug 90 18:50:39 EDT (Tue) Received: by nuchat.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA17639; 7 Aug 90 16:34:27 CDT (Tue) Received: by texhrc.UUCP (5.61/4.8) id AA09844; Tue, 7 Aug 90 11:47:40 -0500 To: nuchat!ntess1!tness7!bellcore!rutgers!comp-windows-x-motif >Naah. Leave it as is. Design flaws such as non null terminated XmNitems and I'm as ready to complain about Motif (sure, even Xt) design as anyone, but surely someone who uses LISP all the time shouldn't complain about aspects of the design meant to help languages other than C. I believe that this kind of stuff is to help with interfaces to Fortran, which doesn't have pointers or address functions, making it hard to say "until the address is NULL, do...". I think you've just been passing the "n" argument in XtSetValues, XtGetValues, and a million others for so long that you've forgotten about it. I don't like it either, but the whole idea of doing object-oriented programming in PDP macro assembler is deranged anyway :-) though I certainly am thankful to those who made it work and am not willing to spill my blood in a vain attempt to get the world to agree on any of the perhaps technically superior but certainly narrowly accepted alternatives. >the "hidden XmScrolledWindowWidgetClass parents of XmList and XmText" Amen. Amen. Amen. ... rb